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Post by randrhoid on Nov 24, 2013 20:03:16 GMT -5
First off, what are everyone's general thoughts about the book?
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Post by caroline on Nov 24, 2013 20:06:21 GMT -5
I liked it! Kind of dark, but fast paced and interesting. Of course, I was also reading with with an eye as to what from it helped inspire Chuck Lightning and Jane.
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Post by randrhoid on Nov 24, 2013 20:14:04 GMT -5
I think we talked about this before but it seems to me that what may have inspired Jane and W.A.S. is the the role of different groups in the future society depicted in the book
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Post by susan on Nov 24, 2013 20:26:57 GMT -5
I agree it was dark in some places. I liked it because it made me think of how things are in the book and how they relate to how we all live. I felt sort of depressed with them living without hope like that. (referring to John Isadore and the dust and never a way to better himself)
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Post by randrhoid on Nov 24, 2013 20:31:42 GMT -5
It's interesting you guys brought up the darkness of the book. I never really thought of it in that sense until you guys brought that up. There does seem to be a sense of helplessness among Rick and John especially now that I think about it
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Post by caroline on Nov 24, 2013 20:34:12 GMT -5
Yes, also the fact that most of the animals were dead seemed to make the characters (and me) very sad.
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Post by susan on Nov 24, 2013 20:37:20 GMT -5
First off, what are everyone's general thoughts about the book? I think we are creating our own threads while we are trying to respond to your question. I'm sorry. Navigation troubles. Anyways, I liked the book. I thought it was depressing some of the time like when John Isadore has to just resign himself to his lot in life and can't improve his circumstances because he is categorized as a chickenhead. I LOVED the mood machine. My favorite part was how Rick Dickard's wife Iran actually scheduled time to be depressed and thought she should do this each day. It is true that sometimes you can feel guilty feeling good, like you stop caring about others, so you think if you at least feel badly about it, that will balance you out. Tightrope haha. |
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Post by caroline on Nov 24, 2013 20:38:33 GMT -5
Did either of you understand Mercer's role in the story? I found that was the most confusing part for me. Does he represent religion, propaganda, humans' desire to feel connected, something else?
Susan, I am seeing everything on one thread (I think).
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Post by randrhoid on Nov 24, 2013 20:39:41 GMT -5
On a sort-of related note, could there be a significance behind most of the "real" animals ending up dead?
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Post by susan on Nov 24, 2013 20:40:31 GMT -5
It's interesting you guys brought up the darkness of the book. I never really thought of it in that sense until you guys brought that up. There does seem to be a sense of helplessness among Rick and John especially now that I think about it When Rick was feeling jealous of his neighbor with the real sheep, it made you want him to be able to get one for himself. You get involved with hoping he can make enough money to get a real animal. Then you find out how much they are or that all the birds are dead and are left feeling hopeless, no matter what he can't get one so he is left with the jealousy. |
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Post by randrhoid on Nov 24, 2013 20:41:41 GMT -5
Mercer seemed to me to represent religion
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Post by caroline on Nov 24, 2013 20:44:05 GMT -5
On a sort-of related note, could there be a significance behind most of the "real" animals ending up dead? Yes, I think that is important - like humans and their war really messed things up, beyond the point of no return. I also found it very sad when several rare animals that appeared real were not (the owl and the toad). Rana, yes, maybe Mercer does represent religion. |
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Post by caroline on Nov 24, 2013 20:46:02 GMT -5
What parts of this story do you think most influenced the Arch Android narrative?
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Post by randrhoid on Nov 24, 2013 20:46:10 GMT -5
[[/quote]When Rick was feeling jealous of his neighbor with the real sheep, it made you want him to be able to get one for himself. You get involved with hoping he can make enough money to get a real animal. Then you find out how much they are or that all the birds are dead and are left feeling hopeless, no matter what he can't get one so he is left with the jealousy.
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What about what ended up happening to his goat?
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Post by randrhoid on Nov 24, 2013 20:48:45 GMT -5
What parts of this story do you think most influenced the Arch Android narrative? I would say the hunting of the androids |
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